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Post by buckleymanor1 on Dec 23, 2010 0:16:43 GMT 1
At least you give me some credit for being able to count for what it.s worth.
I was trying at first to be benevolent but it's obviously wasted.
What you need to do is to take a close look in the mirror if you want to see the face of a true bigot.
The only ill informed bigotry spoiling the boards around here, stems from you.
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Post by Progenitor A on Dec 23, 2010 9:08:55 GMT 1
At least you give me some credit for being able to count for what it.s worth. I was trying at first to be benevolent but it's obviously wasted. What you need to do is to take a close look in the mirror if you want to see the face of a true bigot. The only ill informed bigotry spoiling the boards around here, stems from you. ;D Trying to be benevolent eh? Well the true motivation of your posting is now clear to see! As far as scientific bigotry i sconcerned just examine the number of physics-related questions I have asked, and compare those to the dogmatic statements of 'fact' that are made by those you admire. You are simply a reactionary my dear, and apparently in need of an authority figure |
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Post by Progenitor A on Dec 23, 2010 9:13:58 GMT 1
Just because someone possess great knowledge does not guarantee an ability to communicate it well. This statement is self-evidently true, but why do you include ot here? |
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Post by abacus9900 on Dec 23, 2010 10:09:32 GMT 1
Just because someone possess great knowledge does not guarantee an ability to communicate it well. I thought it was important to remind some here who seem blinded by their adoration of those who can do but not teach. |
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Post by Progenitor A on Dec 23, 2010 10:40:23 GMT 1
I thought it was important to remind some here who seem blinded by their adoration of those who can do but not teach. I do not know if you are referring to the subject of this thread here Abacus, but if you are, then it is really quite evident that she is not one who 'can do'. Examination of her postings exposes glaring anomalies that indicate that what she is doing is simply parroting from popular science books. That does not mean, of course, that she is wrong when she quotes from such sources, but it is extremely doubtful that she understands what she is talking about. For example, on the dilation of time in gravitational fields, she (with Olmy) went to quite extraordinary lengths to argue that gravitational potential was not a measure of the gravitational field, despite the fact that Dr Tong had specifically indicated that it was (even Fellows of Trinity make mistakes they said), and it was only after the most tortuous argument that she coinceded that gravitational potential and its derivative are alternative ways of mesuring the same thing. Quite extraordinary - and even then she denied having stated that gravitational potential is NOT a measaure of the gravitational field. But then she often does that - unashamedly contradicts herself And the displays of astonishing ignorance (for a professed physicist) continued. On the Path Losses thread (in which I have some expertise) she displayed a floundering abyss of ignorance - absolutely clueless about a fundamental physical problem And the latest evidence concened standard equations of motion which she dismissed as 'nonsense', and to top it all claimed the distance 's' in the definition of wavelength (lambda: s per Hz) as not being the same distance as the distance of propagation (quite apart from not understanding that s per Hz defines lambda). She queried d(phi)/dt as a definition of frequency even though that also defines sinusoidal waveforms - something that every mathematician, engineer and physicist takes for granted That told anyone that happened to read that posting, that here is someone pretending to understand physics But all this would not matter. We are all ignorant to a greater or smaller extent about physics - and I freely admit to vast areas of ignorance about physics (that is one reason I am here - to fill the void). What does matter is abuse, calling others idiots and point-scoring in these discussions. If a real expert behaved in thay way he or she would be justifiably condemned for arrogance and blocking of discussion and knowledge accretion; that someone who is patently a parroter does it makes this discussion board worthless - parody of a discussion board |
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Post by abacus9900 on Dec 23, 2010 10:59:17 GMT 1
Which is why it is even more lamentable that there appears to be certain posters here who admire and look up to her and treat any criticism of her with considerable disdain. Why is that, do you think?
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Post by Progenitor A on Dec 23, 2010 11:14:23 GMT 1
Which is why it is even more lamentable that there appears to be certain posters here who admire and look up to her and treat any criticism of her with considerable disdain. Why is that, do you think? Possibly because they are looking for an authority figure on physics, and there is no doubt that she does provide a comforting (if spurios) 'authority' in her manner of writing (and dismissing) I do not really know, but would like to see a real physicist opinion of some of her more wayward solecisms when they are combined with her claims t be a physicist. I was just reading the other day about a student who fraudulently got into Harvard by claiming to be an expert in a particular field. All of his backup claims to be an expert in his field were shown to be plagiarised and he was exposed as an ignorant charlatan (much to Harvard's embarrassment). So even the best of brains can be fooled - for a while |
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Post by abacus9900 on Dec 23, 2010 11:41:11 GMT 1
Well, at the end of the day, all we really see is someone posting about physics and have no idea about their qualifications, so it's all really taken on faith.
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Post by buckleymanor1 on Dec 23, 2010 12:19:37 GMT 1
At least you give me some credit for being able to count for what it.s worth. I was trying at first to be benevolent but it's obviously wasted. What you need to do is to take a close look in the mirror if you want to see the face of a true bigot. The only ill informed bigotry spoiling the boards around here, stems from you. ;D Trying to be benevolent eh? Well the true motivation of your posting is now clear to see! As far as scientific bigotry i sconcerned just examine the number of physics-related questions I have asked, and compare those to the dogmatic statements of 'fact' that are made by those you admire. You are simply a reactionary my dear, and apparently in need of an authority figure Mirror mirror on the wall, there you go again, if ever there was a case of them so blind they refuse to see, you fit the case. Compare your reasonable physics related questions sorry they are not reasonable half the time. To the dogmatic questions.Without missing a beat "you are simply a reactionary my dear etc"A condescending dogmatic bigoted reactionary answer if ever there was. It's not even a case of pot kettle black. |
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Post by Progenitor A on Dec 23, 2010 15:04:26 GMT 1
Mirror mirror on the wall, there you go again, if ever there was a case of them so blind they refuse to see, you fit the case. Compare your reasonable physics related questions sorry they are not reasonable half the time. Well, here is a list of the physics questions I have asked from the last 20 or so of my postings - perhaps you could indentify the unreasonable ones: We have established that the velocity of light is not a constant?
We have established that light is accelerated (positively or negatively) by gravity)?
We have established that light undergoes infinite accelerations and decelerations without any loss or gain of energy?
We have established that in black holes (according to cosmologists) light is decelerated so much that it never escapes?
We have established (from observation of black holes) that light is reduced to zero velocity from our point of view?
We have established that light is not affected by em, electric or magnetic fields?
We have established that space is not a vacuum(and cosmologists tell us that space is seething with energy fluctuations and furthermore that 90 % of space consists of dark matter) so we have never had a vaccum throgh which light travels.?
Now throw the ball upward for 100 seconds (registered on the ground) and when it comes back down examine the time on the ball-clock
More time will have passed by on the ball- clock - say 101 seconds. Now try throwing the ball again (with the clock reset). How can you ensure that the ball-clock registers the maximum possible time when it returns an is compared to the ground-clock 100 seconds?
Fix a clock to a rocket on earth, fire it upward so that it gains quite some speeed.
The velocity of the rocket will cause time dilation - time will slow down - thats a tenet of SR.
But as the rocket goes higher in our gravitational field , the clock will speed up -that is a tenet of GR.
Which one wins?
Does the clock remain the same?
I see v does not involve t but a=dv/dt does involve t……Hahaha!
And what do you consider a change in v amounts to?
(The twin paradox)
What will he find?
Will his brother be half his age, or will his brother be twice his age or will they both be the same age?
Neither can possibly know before they meet!
(On speed of light)
Some good points here Carnyx. What is your take on them?
But how does SR explain this apparent (in fact it is very real to us - because of it we see FA!) slowing down of c from our point of view?
And from our frame of reference has it not slowed down?
How are the costs of a University Education to be 'insurmountable' to anyone when the poorest will get 2 years free tuition and a loan to cover the remaining years that must only be paid back gradually when they are employed and earning over £21k?
(On s per Hz NOT being the same s a per distance travelled)
Perhaps you would like to explain how they are different distances?
But surely 'knowledge' without a strong body of supportive evidence is simply prejudice?
To the question 'Does gravity accelerate light? the answer is YES
It basically amounts to this - is there a line of sight between your antenna and the furthest point you wish to have solid reception?[/i] And here, for comparison is a list of all the physics questions that you have asked in all your postings: I must admit that you do not ask unreasonable questions! But enough of this juvenile silliness. I will not respond further I expect that Mr Seago will send you comforting IM's |
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Post by Progenitor A on Jan 13, 2011 9:29:30 GMT 1
I see our autistic 'physicist' is back in full polymath flow! Here is a short selection of her persuasive powers in action over just tha las coupke of days Because it is approximately right, (unlike you, you idiot). Stop pretending you don't even understand the totally bleedin' obvious.................even you couldn't be that stupid. .... NOT some noddy model of a transistor................ Stop being such a total idiot.............. You have totally failed to understand the BASICS............... Seems that again, you really don't get ... I think yuou'#re stuck in classical physics, ... Just go and learn the basics Utter tosh. post this rubbish ..... Come back when you have something sensible to say ... I suggest you go back to pen and paper then, and leave the trivial pursuit that is the internet to the rest of us.................... ...why don't you try some actual physics this time, rather than just hand-wavey pictures................. Wrong ..you have got totally the wrong idea ... .... the little you do know about waves, .. these daft pictures daft conclusions ..... Hence claiming it ...is just daft -- we can measure it, end of story. If you knew anything about this, you'd know this was daft. Must try harder. 0/10 So, yet more daft attempts to bait me. Why do I bother? Perhaps in the vain hope that SOMEONE out there is actually interested in the physics.................. Wrong. What part of 'its standard quantum theory' did you miss.... If you knew what polarizability meant..... I don't know where you got this daft explanation, ... supposed idea is nonsense,.................... you have to understand the basic of quantum theory before you have any chance of understanding the quantum explanation for refractive index........................... This attitude is becoming entirely unacceptable and will cause people to leave unless it is controlled |
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Post by speakertoanimals on Jan 13, 2011 13:44:13 GMT 1
Pot, kettle, as they say.
No worries, I ain't going no matter I hard they try.
Ignorance, misunderstanding, misinformation, I'll keep pointing them out!
For example, another repeated lie:
Which missed out the critical word -- strength! Gradient of the potential is a measure of the strength of a gravitational field, the bald value of the potential alone is NOT.
Same ole, same ole, what some people on here certainly don't have is any scrap of originality, they keep recycling the same attempted insults and manglings of the actual physics, over and over again. You'd think they'd get bored..................
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Post by alanseago on Jan 13, 2011 14:55:56 GMT 1
If confronted by Einstein, these morons would protest that they could not understand his English.
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Post by Progenitor A on Feb 9, 2011 9:45:09 GMT 1
A very small selection of more from the delightful polymath: TELLING THE TIME Not this waffly, pretty-souding word-salad -- it's garbage I'm afraid. As I said meaningless word salad................. This is all bollocks. The stuff about gamma rays is bollocks. ......you start from a position of ignorance or misunderstanding...... ......meaningless word salad................. Down the puib after ten pints kind of non-thinking, which you may think is brilliant at the time, but is just mush. A total time-wasting idiot, that's the nicest thing I can think to say about you! No shit sherlock.................. Bollocks. You still don't know what information is. Or data, for that matter. It is very easy to be originally stupid (you manage it all the time!) -- being original, relevant and interesting is MUCH harder. Actually, you aren't even originally stupid, anyone could have wibbled on ................. ENCYCLOPEADIA BRIT .... it works for engineers with applications to consider, it totally gets wrong the BASICS of the subject. ... ...Naymissus gets it wrong AGAIN, with his wittering on about change.................. … doesn't actually know enough about the basis of information theory to see that that is what he is doing. Good enough for engineers perhaps, but mathematicians and computer scientists laugh at it! RED SHIFT I am aware -- Carnyx is a total idiot! Why don't you bother learning the utter basics before musing...e any idiot can muse from a posiiton of total ignorance and find it amusing -- a bit like masturbation, do it if you must, but you really shouldn't display it in front of other people.......................... HOLOGRAPHIC UNI.. Put a bit of effort in, this is a rather feeble attempt at a post............. This is the same utter bollocks .... .... you either don't understand anything about quantum theory, or if you are lying. ......WHY do you keep misprepresenting basic quantum theory as if it is strange, inexplicable etc etc, apart from the usual reason why charlatans and quantum woo-woo merchants want to try and sell that impression to the punters.......... If you knew ANY physics, you'd know that the real mysterious are much more fun than this repeated quantum is strange nonsense. ......when I tell you you don't understand something, or have got something wrong, you accuse me of being insulting and belittling! This has happened OVER and OVER again. So, don't talk crap ...... .....you refuse to listen when I tell you you have misunderstood or got something wrong. Stop wasting time .....and DISCUSS the actual physics for once................... Utter bollocks! GO read something on information theory, for starters! Still more nonsense, and those who can't distinguish between digital information, and analog bandwidth nonsense! .... you, in your usual muddled, silly way, .......... ......... DO try and be consistent on your madness. ............play silly games and produce endless postintgs full of utter nonsense. There is no end to the stupidity of some people. But some adults can be equally stupid, like the lads who shout lesbian when me and my wife walk past, and think they have been soooo daring. I don't know which group Nay belongs to, but either way its not exactly a recommendation. ... what you produce is idiotic! What are we forced to conclude, yet again, from YOUR performance, but a wish to play, and a childish inclination to throw your toys out of the pram when anyone dares to comment on your burblings........... I suggest a play-pen might be approriate, or being sent to bed early without any tea...................... .....childish and silly, and the usual childish response of 'I hate you, I hate you, you're mean!' when an adult turns up and refuses to play your silly little game. .......What a silly little person you are......................... I........stop wasting everyones time with these inane posts. Stop being stupid man (more probably boy)! Not all of them , just the stupid ones! ...... you're even more of an idiot. ............ .... more of your uusal silliness. ......same tired ole nonsense............ .......so simple even he should be able to ...... ......Carnyx seems to have transmuted into the dog-faced boy..................... 10Feb........why keep wasting our time? [/color][/quote] ....... what makes them an idiot....... Bollocks. ....... O let me guess, your mates on the blogs............................. Well that's a bloody stupid remark! ... a world and more away from such transitory and insubstantial personal opinions as your opinion as to which premier league team is the best................ ANd the usual bollocks from the great unwashed and those that don't understand the first thing about quantum theory! As Wells knew, in the country of the blind, they try to put out the eyes of the one/few who can see........................... 14 FebAlways astounding what nonsense people can come out with based on almost total ignorance! Any idiot can ...... ...... on these boards is mostly still at the kiddie level, and far away from where the research is actually happening. carnyx -- .....just feeble attempts ...... do some learning first...... No they don't. .....its BLOODY OBVIOUS .....your comment is usual, utter and total bollocks........you don't know the difference between frequency and wavelength................... No it doesn't -- stop coming out with the same ole quantum woo-woo bollocks! ......you have got yourself all confused ..... on the web similar idiots to yourself, 15 Feb... just go back to the same quantum woo-woo nonsense ... More out-right LIES, ......... .... the consciousness stuff is crap. ..... the best you can do, .... same ole consciousness loop .... excruiatingly boring ..... woo-woo bullshit loop yet again..............). Carnyx is talking utter bollocks ......and it will remain bollocks ........ others .... produce more bollocks:....a fatal flaw in reasoning ability -....can't reason correctly for even simple cases ....don't give a tinkers cuss ....play silly games and claim I have to say is either wrong, incomprehensible, or rude.......incomprehensible to the idiots on here at the moment, and as sarcastic and downright rude as I can make it..................... ...that density effects frequency is bollocks! QED and all that, and let's see what bollocks Carnyx comes up .......................... Okay, idiot, ...your daft questions (which you ain't gonna understand given your inability to understand the ......Bollocks! Light generated in atoms, ....SO bollocks right from the start..... up the proverbial creek......Ain't a lot of stuff out there..... chaps on here are cocky, .....A bunch of spineless idiots,...... More utter bollocks! ....WHY do you keep talking such utter and absolute bollocks! .... you are talking bollocks...... contunuous and utter drivel on here, day after day? .....one SAD bastard, frankly..................... O stop being such a total idiot........ your idiotic idea!.... bloody DENSITY isn't one of them! WRONG, wrong, wrong, wrong! ........ any idiot ought to be able to follow it .......plain wrong! .....the really dim ones, ........their thick skulls ...god knows why..... get the BASICS ...into your head, ...... too dim to understand Yeah, and my dog is a reincarnation of Hitler.......................Cut the crap, ...shown up for what you are, .... behaving like spoilt brats. Repeated bollocks .....these silly games , .... messing about. Oh cut the crap! Y... the most tedious, idiotic individual I have ever had the misfortune to come across.....even to someone as dim as you. ... a stupid question... daft one-line requests .......Sounds like more bollocks to me...................... |
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Post by abacus9900 on Feb 9, 2011 11:39:44 GMT 1
If confronted by Einstein, these morons would protest that they could not understand his English. Your 'contributions' are worse than useless because you never make any worthwhile effort to discuss any topic - all you seem to want to do is snipe at the sidelines. We would be better off if you did not post here any more because you don't want to discuss science, just stir things up. Please go away. |
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