China's Energy consumption by fuel type

[marchesarosa]

Just for your information.


China’s energy consumption by source, based on BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy data.

If you are thinking, as I did, "where are renewables and nuclear" you may see, if your eyesight is good, thin slivers of orange and blue on top of the hydroelectric sector.

The folk who think that China represents the rosy future of renewables are mistaken, I think.

[principled]

Marchesa
I spoke to my MP today about the government's energy policy. 15 mins isn't really long enough but I think I got my point across about security of supply, high energy prices affecting people and industry, our closing of coal plants and giving subsidies to plants to convert to burning forests, having 1/10 of gas storage of either Germany or France etc. etc.

I also told him that of the £2.5 billion for EU nuclear power research funds, some 86% goes to France for fusion research but nothing to Thorium, yet we have the University of Huddersfield desperate for £100 million to build a Thorium reactor.

I asked him why we were putting ourselves in a position of high energy prices and power cuts in order to reduce our CO2 by a level that equates to 2 months increase in China's CO2. He came back with the moral high ground argument (what the UK does today, the world will do tomorrow). I told him that if that's what the Gov. thinks then it is living in the times of the British Empire. It would seem that in the exalted heights of Westminster they don't realise that the UK is now a minor league player in the "New World" of China, India, Brazil etc.
Made me feel quite depressed. I've never been keen on self flagellation.

P

[marchesarosa]

Well done for trying,principled!

Do you mind if I copy and paste your message and send it to my MP Hilary Benn?

[alancalverd]

India and China, which have ratified the Kyoto protocol, are not obligated to reduce greenhouse gas production ....

As a result of this loophole, the West has effectively outsourced much of its carbon emissions to China and India.....

So the entire carbon reduction program is a con to put taxpayers' money into the pockets of ineffective electricity suppliers.

[principled]

Marchesa, I have PM's you and sent copies of my emails to my MP
P

[marchesarosa]

Thanks,principled. This is what I sent to my MP, former Sec of State for the Environment, yesterday.

It is snowing in Leeds today, Hilary. The Central heating - GAS central heating - is burning in my house this Spring day, and nearly everywhere else, I guess. The British state has seen fit to permit as little as only 15 days of gas storage in the UK, which is currently down to a couple of day’s supply and has also just been affected by pipeline breakdowns.

All parties, which multilaterally supported the Climate Change Act, are also against the rapid promotion of fracking of natural gas which would increase our domestic sourced supply, cut imports, increase exports and increase employment and the multiplier effect of more money circulating from a genuine, REAL productivity increase.

At the same time as you are reducing and hampering the UK supply of coal and gas powered electricity you are still throwing taxpayers’ money at “renewables” in the form of massive public subsidy and this snowy Spring day there must be few who are not dismayed about the state’s wrongheaded energy policies.

£2.5 billion is going to EU nuclear power research funds, some 86% of this to France for fusion research but nothing to Thorium, yet we have the University of Huddersfield desperate for £100 million to build a Thorium reactor!

Why are we putting ourselves in a position of high energy prices and power cuts in order to reduce our CO2 by a level that equates to 2 months increase in China's CO2? If you think that what the UK does today, the world will do tomorrow you are living in the times of the British Empire. It would seem that in the exalted heights of Westminster you don't realise that the UK is now a minor league player in the "New World" of China, India, Brazil etc.

Pull your socks up, Hilary, abandon this silly obsession with CO2 and make sure the lights keep burning and the Central heating gas keeps flowing, please. Your priorities are all awry, I’m afraid.

Your constituent,

Susan *****

[principled]

Thanks for the PM Marchesa. We live in hope, but the exalted heights of Westminster seem to be immune from common sense!
BTW, I sent the video you posted about the World Greening to my MP as well. It fits in very nicely with the concerns I expressed to him about Biomass.

One other point. My MP said there was research going on to see whether there was a bias in subsidies towards wind! I pointed out that research doesn't stop the lights going out.

I made the following simple point.

A man has an old car, which he needs to go from a to b. He's keen to reduce his carbon footprint and orders a new car, which won't be available for a year. What he doesn't do is scrap the old banger he needs before he has his new car. This is effectively what the gov and EU policy are forcing us towards! Illogical.

P

[marchesarosa]

Precisely, principled!

[alancalverd]

More to the point, Mr P, the carbon dioxide emission required to make a new car exceeds the average lifetime exhalation of the car itself. To minimise your carbon footprint, repair the old banger.