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Post by speakertoanimals on Nov 4, 2010 15:04:38 GMT 1
The point is, some people just don't like being told they're wrong (and why they are wrong). In ordinary conversation, people are more used to thinking that everyones opinion is valid, or has some merit. Not quite the same in science, because what matters there is what evidence there is to support your view.
So, when someone makes claims that are just contradicted by experiment, or where someone claims someone did something that they didn't...........
I'm still waiting for my point about Feynman to be answered................
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Post by jean on Nov 4, 2010 15:22:13 GMT 1
The fact is, we have no solid evidence as to who or what [STA] is... Oh? And who are you, exactly? Do we need to know that before we can make any judgment of what you say? Can't we assess it on its merits? I don't condone bad behaviour in anyone, and I notice a good deal more of it emanating from naymissus and carnyx (whose behaviour I've reminded you of above) and I am sorry to say, from you, too. Patronising ego-trips? Didn't someone say something somewhere about pots and kettles?
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Post by abacus9900 on Nov 4, 2010 15:56:29 GMT 1
Simplex, I'm afraid to say that you come over as a troublemaker.
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Post by speakertoanimals on Nov 4, 2010 16:07:38 GMT 1
So, still no answer to the Feynman claim then...............
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Post by Progenitor A on Nov 4, 2010 16:46:20 GMT 1
Simplex, I'm afraid to say that you come over as a troublemaker. ;D Well spotted Abacus
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Post by Progenitor A on Nov 4, 2010 16:47:07 GMT 1
So, still no answer to the Feynman claim then............... Could you repeat the question again?
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Post by speakertoanimals on Nov 4, 2010 17:52:03 GMT 1
Have you suddenly lost the ability to scroll back through the posts? Go look at what you claimed, and what I said.................
Stop wasting time, if you can't answer, or just got it wrong, just admit it!
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Post by abacus9900 on Nov 4, 2010 18:41:30 GMT 1
naymissus I think STA gets off on winding people up. Do not bite. She probably teased boys a lot when a kid.
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Post by speakertoanimals on Nov 4, 2010 19:26:08 GMT 1
Still waiting for an answer..........
Despite the chaff some are trying to spread, any reasonable person is going to come to suspect that the reason you haven't given an answer, is that you can't, that you got it wrong, and that was not what Feynman did..........
I know it's not what he did, just have you realised that yet, and are you man enough to admit it? The first step on the path towards wisdom........
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Post by Progenitor A on Nov 4, 2010 19:37:22 GMT 1
Still waiting for an answer.......... Despite the chaff some are trying to spread, any reasonable person is going to come to suspect that the reason you haven't given an answer, is that you can't, that you got it wrong, and that was not what Feynman did.......... I know it's not what he did, just have you realised that yet, and are you man enough to admit it? The first step on the path towards wisdom........ ;D Back to your lab cubby hole to prepare an experiment for the real physicists! (nothing wrong with that incidentally)
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Post by abacus9900 on Nov 4, 2010 19:43:56 GMT 1
BTW, STA, why would a purportedly Oxford don choose to post on a website like this and not on one where similar experts post? Very puzzling!
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Post by speakertoanimals on Nov 4, 2010 21:37:37 GMT 1
First, I never said I was an Oxford don (although I did attend Oxford university), do try and keep up!
Second, don't you think that public engagement is important, that us working scientists shouldn't try and interact with the public, and try and explain what it is we do, and what science is really saying about all that weird quantum stuff, and cosmology? Perhaps not, if all they do is keep telling you you have got it wrong, you'd rather be left to stew in your own ignorance...............
Third -- how long do you think it is going to be before I actually get an answer to my Feynman question? Suppose it depends whether or not you think the future of the universe is infinite or not? What do you think will come first, the Big Rip, or me getting a straight answer? Please write on both sides of the paper, and fill-in your student number at the top of each sheet..........
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Post by abacus9900 on Nov 4, 2010 22:27:54 GMT 1
I was under the impression you lectured at Oxford.
Yes, it should be of great value to the public but only if people like you are prepared to put over complex ideas in a way that is suitable for the average person. Why don't you? You can't keep saying that providing a simplified version of things is wrong. Ok, maybe it is wrong but at least it provides a starting point for people to begin understanding.
That was a topic raised by naymissus.
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Post by jean on Nov 5, 2010 0:18:22 GMT 1
Simplex, I'm afraid to say that you come over as a troublemaker. Do I, abacus? I'm sorry to hear that. I'd be interested to hear your definition of 'trouble', though. This is a relatively new messageboard, with a clear remit and 50+ members. And yet only the merest handful of them actually post, and one poster has even started a thread so as to boast of having driven another poster away altogether. It's in enough trouble already without any help from me, isn't it?
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Post by carnyx on Nov 5, 2010 8:30:36 GMT 1
@sta
Wassup? Did the ecostudies degree not near fruit? Did you enjoy the Oxford summer school on particle physics? Made a nice change from truck-driving, I expect.
@siimplex
As an ex-schoool-teacherm show us the way! Start a thread on a physics subject! How about 'flood defences'? Ask olmy for an idea, s/he must have at least one one. . Your coterie has been discovered.
(and BTW, the fact is, old fruit, that the kettle is still black ... irrespective of who points it out. But of course, you are an authoritarianm and believe in 'qualification' !)
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