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Post by alancalverd on Apr 13, 2019 15:34:23 GMT 1
Just returned from Tesco's. Nothing special - I just watched as The Boss loaded the trolley with
Peppers from Essex
Mushrooms - Cambridge
Tomatoes - Morocco
Broccoli - Kenya
Corn cobs - Senegal
Beans - Kenya
Asparagus - Peru
Cucumber - Essex
Potatoes - Suffolk
Cabbage - Norfolk
Lettuce - Essex
Carrots - Suffolk
Cheese - Somerset
Apples - Worcestershire
Lemons - South Africa
All the beef on sale was Scotch, pork from the Midlands, lamb from everywhere else in Britain, fresh fish from UK coastal waters, cooked prawns from Indonesia, chickens from Norfolk.
Nothing essential from the EU at all.
Admittedly we didn't buy any pickled herrings (Poland) or Spanish onions today, but they don't rot if the truck is delayed.
Remoaners should wake up and smell the coffee (Guatemala - excellent).
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Post by mrsonde on Apr 13, 2019 17:42:50 GMT 1
Never buy cucumbers from Essex. You never know where they might have been.
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Post by marchesarosa on Apr 14, 2019 12:01:23 GMT 1
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Post by mrsonde on Apr 14, 2019 17:53:33 GMT 1
I've always registered it as a bit of Remain propaganda! Or are you being ironic? I see there was a spot-on response to it on my MP's (Bob Seely) twitter feed (he's actually remarkably good - potentially a future leader, I'd say. Highly intelligent, eloquent, seemingly well-balanced. I know, I can't quite believe it myself) from Tim Montgomerie:
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Post by marchesarosa on Apr 15, 2019 9:57:13 GMT 1
I am not being ironic at all, Mr Sonde. The jigsaw puzzle of the whole world is the clue! That marvellous advert is a very good economic description of today's UK and the UK's deeply embedded "Buy it from Everywhere except Home" mentality. We thrive because of a floating pound which magically equalises the impact of the overblown imports to which we are addicted with exports. We are basically a world trading nation, unlike the rest of the EU nations which trade mainly amongst themselves. This was as obvious back in 1975 as it is today and yet the Remainers imply the UK is a helpless little banana republic that cannot exist without the protection of Big Brother in Europe. It is quite the other way round in my opinion which is why the EU Nomenclatura want so desperately to keep us IN.
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Post by alancalverd on Apr 15, 2019 14:28:29 GMT 1
Never buy cucumbers from Essex. You never know where they might have been. I don't understand why they use cucumbers to demonstrate condom use in Safe Sex lessons. If you buy them from Tesco or Sainsbury they come already shrink-wrapped, and the Grade 2 fruits in the market are so distorted as to be positively frightening. What message are they delivering? |
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Post by mrsonde on Apr 15, 2019 16:51:38 GMT 1
I don't understand why they use cucumbers to demonstrate condom use in Safe Sex lessons. No, I always thought they should be marrows, myself. I'm a stickler for accuracy, as you know. |
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Post by mrsonde on Apr 15, 2019 17:10:09 GMT 1
I am not being ironic at all, Mr Sonde. The jigsaw puzzle of the whole world is the clue! That marvellous advert is a very good economic description of today's UK and the UK's deeply embedded "Buy it from Everywhere except Home" mentality. We thrive because of a floating pound which magically equalises the impact of the overblown imports to which we are addicted with exports. We are basically a world trading nation, unlike the rest of the EU nations which trade mainly amongst themselves. This was as obvious back in 1975 as it is today and yet the Remainers imply the UK is a helpless little banana republic that cannot exist without the protection of Big Brother in Europe. It is quite the other way round in my opinion which is why the EU Nomenclatura want so desperately to keep us IN. The first para made sense. In 1975 your house - any assets - would have been worth almost twice what it is now, in dollar terms. More in French, and more than three times in German. That's what being in the EU has done for our prosperity. The floating pound isn't really responsible, but the fact that it's not grounded on anything certainly is. In real terms that means you can multiply all that loss of value by four or five times at least. Not inflation as it's become defined since then, but by hidden - but very real - depreciation of the currency. If the floating pound really did equalise our trade imbalance, there might be something worth saying for the system - it would be clear to everyone how we're daily getting poorer by such spending and working habits. As it is, we manage to disguise its comparative effects by flogging what we can off to foreign "investors", and this keeps us solvent, just - though for how much longer is anyone's guess. |
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Post by alancalverd on Apr 15, 2019 19:26:16 GMT 1
To put it simply, the EU is good for business, bad for Britain. Never understood why remoaners can't see it. If you and I play poker every week and you always lose, why would you want to play more often, under my rules, and pay for the privilege?
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Post by mrsonde on Apr 16, 2019 9:04:58 GMT 1
It's good for some businesses - those that benefit from having their market protected through external tariffs, price fixing, subsidies, and access to large mobile pools of very cheap and largely unregulated labour. The result of enjoying such protections are of course more expensive goods for the general populace, a need for high rates of general taxation, and large influxes of necessarily poor workers from less developed parts of the EU - and the world when that runs short - undercutting the earning power of indigenous labour. In other words, your own poor and unskilled workers will be able to earn less, while the cost of their living will grow more. The businesses that have thus benefited, meanwhile, will have conglomerated, and taken advantage of the loosening of national borders and regulations to relocate here and there to minimise their expenses - increasing further the need for high rates of taxation on the general populace and less opportunities in the home employment market.
There'll be a few small businesses here and there reliant on the market-rigging and subsidy payouts - farmers, mainly. And of course there will be large multinational businesses like Airbus and Honda able to cause widespread pain if they choose to scuttle off in search of those lower expenses. And when they go, it's natural to fearfully ask: who or what will replace them?
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