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Post by jonjel on Nov 26, 2010 13:14:26 GMT 1
I see that Helen is now banned from these boards, and seriously question the reasoning behind this.
Blunt she might well be, and fools are not suffered gladly in her book, but she is well qualified to write on a number of subjects, far more than many on this board who simply give, at times misinformed opinion. As far as I know she has never made public any private messages, if indeed she has ever received any.
I must say that I am finding this board tedious in the extreme. There are more than a couple of contributors who are solely posting huge chunks out of other peoples blogs and are only interested in one theme.
So come on moderators, think again about Helen, who has a lot more to say than many, on a lot more interesting and varied topics.
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Post by eamonnshute on Nov 26, 2010 15:02:36 GMT 1
I agree that Helen should not have been banned, it is other, anti science posters who are the cause of the friction. They have long exhibited troll-like behaviour, and it is they who should have been banned - they would not be tolerated on well-moderated sites.
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Post by rsmith7 on Nov 26, 2010 16:24:53 GMT 1
I agree that helen shouldn't have been banned.
The fact that sceptic sites are far more open and inclusive than the warmist ones is a strength that shouldn't be surrendered.
....It appears she has run off in a huff rather than been banned.
Wimmen!
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Post by principled on Nov 26, 2010 17:21:52 GMT 1
Jonjel I am also sad to see Helen gone. Like you, Jonjel, I feel there is something lacking on this board. I'm not certain whether this is down to an insufficient number of posters, or whether those who are members prefer to read rather than contribute.On the BBC board I would spend many hours reading and posting. Now I spend about an hour tops. If this board were a human, I'd suggest a few vitamins, some Lucozade and a protein drink to give it some more pizazz. But as it's not, I can only suggest we search out Look-Listen! P  |
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Post by Progenitor A on Nov 26, 2010 18:03:36 GMT 1
I agree that Helen should not have been banned, it is other, anti science posters who are the cause of the friction. They have long exhibited troll-like behaviour, and it is they who should have been banned - they would not be tolerated on well-moderated sites. Hi Eammon, I largely agree with you. By anti-science I think that you mean those that accept unquestioningly the current fashionable dogmas of science (there are plenty to choose from) and pour scorn and ridicule on those posters that disagree with them. They certainly cause fiction and drive people away. I don't know, (and don't care) what 'troll-like'behaviour is. Is it keepiing very quiet whilst others post and then joining in th eabuse of te 'anti-science' clique by hurling insults? Trouble is, with this board, that there are no open-minded scientists. Plenty of 'scientists' with dogmas to pursue (just like religious fundamentalists) but no-one with a good knowledge of science that has an open mind. Incidentally, Helen is not banned - she has 'banned' herself. She does indulge in childish behaviour quite often, doesn't she? Perhaps she is a primary schol science teacher and has caught their behaviour patterns? |
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Post by alanseago on Nov 27, 2010 15:22:23 GMT 1
I seem to remember Helen having problems with a thing who heaped insults upon her. I and others gave her moral support. Perhaps we were occupied elsewhere when the creature launched its latest attack.
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Post by rsmith7 on Nov 27, 2010 15:26:41 GMT 1
I seem to remember Helen having problems with a thing who heaped insults upon her. I and others gave her moral support. Perhaps we were occupied elsewhere when the creature launched its latest attack. Get off the fence man! To which poster do you refer? |
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Post by alanseago on Nov 27, 2010 15:45:21 GMT 1
I am not here to start a personal feud. He, Helen and I know who he is. Had you read all the posts you would know. Perhaps you have another reason why she left?
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Post by rsmith7 on Nov 27, 2010 16:45:54 GMT 1
She went off in a silly huff about who knows what - typical woman.  |
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Post by marchesarosa on Nov 27, 2010 20:44:50 GMT 1
Helen was given a couple of warnings to mend her board manners and chose instead to take herself off. She'll be back. She can't resist having a go at me. Remember when she logged in even when on holiday Canada to give vent to her aggravation with me?
Her case is a prime example of warmists who invariably resort to personal attacks and needling. Remember she is also a fan of those sites which specialise in retailing scurriloous knocking copy about prominent sceptics. I think Eamonn is a fan of them, too.
Sad!
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Post by jonjel on Nov 29, 2010 11:19:03 GMT 1
Helen has asked me to thank those who have shown some support and that I am doing.
I know she was absent for some months, but this time I gather that she has not only been banned but is also barred from even viewing this board.
And I would question why that is.
Whether I agree with her views expressed her is irrelevant. It is a shame that anyone should be banned, and some on this board in my view deserve to be banned more than Helen, but I would still not call for someone to be banned. We can be grown up surely and ignore what they might choose to post?
If she insulted someone I expect it was in retaliation but I can't recall anything particularly obnoxious, and I know for certain that others have insulted many with no question of being kicked out.
Maybe our Admin would like to comment on why she has taken this action? In the days of the BBC board we did quite rightly have a few people booted off, and the Mods usually told us why they had taken such action.
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Post by abacus9900 on Nov 29, 2010 12:28:25 GMT 1
She did attack myself and marchesarosa by saying she thought we should both be sent back to school! I have never attacked Helen so why she chose to take this attitude is puzzling.
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Post by jonjel on Nov 29, 2010 13:00:20 GMT 1
That is pretty mild Abacus. I know in the past I personally have been a lot more impolite than that to people.
I did get reported to the mods on more than one occasion when I replied to our dear demented friend Look Listen!
And then there was whatshisname, who claimed we were all being secretly micro-chipped at birth........
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Post by abacus9900 on Nov 29, 2010 13:17:36 GMT 1
That is pretty mild Abacus. I know in the past I personally have been a lot more impolite than that to people. I did get reported to the mods on more than one occasion when I replied to our dear demented friend Look Listen! And then there was whatshisname, who claimed we were all being secretly micro-chipped at birth........ Well, perhaps Helen was particularly cruel to certain individuals, I'm not sure. At any rate, let us hope that this period of banishment might serve to make her reflect upon her transgressions and, hopefully, make her a better person in the future. |
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Post by jonjel on Nov 29, 2010 13:42:36 GMT 1
[Well, perhaps Helen was particularly cruel to certain individuals, I'm not sure. At any rate, let us hope that this period of banishment might serve to make her reflect upon her transgressions and, hopefully, make her a better person in the future]
I am really not sure whether to take what you wrote seriously or not Abacus. 'Reflect on her transgressions?' Sounds as if you are still coming down from a particularly trumatic sermon you heard yesterday.
All I think it will do is re-inforce her belief that this board is not and never has been a place for serious scientific debate.
By the way about 5 mins ago she wrote this, just so none of you are in any doubt as to what has happened:
Thick fog and -9°C right now!!!!
Think it is really bad that I can't even have a look at the Proboards. Please can you stress that I didn't leave in a huff. I've been proscribed from using the site by the hosts. I know that I don't know any of the contibutors but it bugs me that folk think that I've withdrawn in a huff.!
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