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Post by rsmith7 on Feb 16, 2011 9:23:08 GMT 1
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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 2, 2011 18:12:29 GMT 1
Yes, but if you are drawing a parallel with AGW then I think it is a false one because BSE is a more easily contained phenomenon than AGW which is global in nature and involves huge economic vested interests. |
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Post by speakertoanimals on Mar 2, 2011 18:17:29 GMT 1
Except BSE wasn't exactly a HOAX, but an actual disease. And what I think you meant was variant-CJD in humans, which was a NEW disease, a NEW transmission vector (prions), and hence an UNKNOWN pattern of spread.
It COULD have been devasting, and we still don't know if there will be late-onset cases. Quite a few people have already died, so why call their deaths a hoax?
So, not nonsense, just we didn't KNOW how many might die, and we still don't........................ but we seem to have got rid of the BSE-vCJD link by careful controls with cattle.
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Post by marchesarosa on Mar 2, 2011 19:04:50 GMT 1
"we didn't KNOW how many might die,"
Just as we don't KNOW how much, if any, warming a little extra CO2 will cause. Mr Smith's analogy is apt. The hype is just the same - on the basis of zero knowledge and a lot of scaremongering.
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Post by rsmith7 on Mar 2, 2011 19:45:13 GMT 1
Except BSE wasn't exactly a HOAX, but an actual disease. And what I think you meant was variant-CJD in humans, which was a NEW disease, a NEW transmission vector (prions), and hence an UNKNOWN pattern of spread. It COULD have been devasting, and we still don't know if there will be late-onset cases. Quite a few people have already died, so why call their deaths a hoax? So, not nonsense, just we didn't KNOW how many might die, and we still don't........................ but we seem to have got rid of the BSE-vCJD link by careful controls with cattle. nvCJD was "new" to science. How many people have died of the same disease since year dot? Just because scientists just found out about it doesn't mean it was new. Like Australia was "discovered" in 16..? We'll overlook the "darkies" that already lived there, eh? It was a hoax. Hysteria drummed up by the media on the back of dodgy science pedalled as fact. EXACTLY the same process we see with CAGW. |
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Post by speakertoanimals on Mar 2, 2011 20:36:07 GMT 1
So you'd rather dismiss people dying of a new disease as 'a hoax', you'd rather ignore the exciting new discoevery of prions, ALL in some vain attempt to draw a false analogy with AGW, and try to gather some sort of 'evidence' to support your twisted world view.......
How many deaths would it take to convince you..................
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Post by rsmith7 on Mar 2, 2011 21:18:15 GMT 1
More than a hundred odd in 25 years!
More people have died as a result of laughing in the same period, I'd bet.
I take a brutally realistic view of the world.
Grow up.
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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 8, 2011 17:23:47 GMT 1
More than a hundred odd in 25 years! More people have died as a result of laughing in the same period, I'd bet. I take a brutally realistic view of the world. Grow up. Perhaps 'brutally silly' might be a better term. |
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Post by carnyx on Mar 8, 2011 20:48:39 GMT 1
I agree with rsmith7. It is NOT a new disease. It may be 'new to science' but that is a different thing altogether.
Because modern professional science requires a host to provide it with funding, it has clearly outgrown the ability of the education system and the other organs of the state, it has joined with the media in order to attack the central political system itself.
And AGW is a classic sympton of the advanced and virulently parasitic character of Modern Science, which is attepting to drive us all mad with fear, in order to be funded.
(PS; if you want further a further illustrations that Modern Science = 'Mad Cow' Disease, have a look around this board)
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Post by speakertoanimals on Mar 8, 2011 21:15:01 GMT 1
Actually variant CJD IS a new disease according to the WHO:
Transmissable spongiform encephalopathies, yes, this particular one, no. It was new, not just new to science. That was the point.
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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 8, 2011 21:16:00 GMT 1
Have you been drinking carnyx?
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Post by skeptic on Feb 14, 2012 22:12:39 GMT 1
Untold millions were going to die of AIDS which would ravage the planet.
The year 2000, computers would crash all over the world and planes would fall out of the sky.
Forty years ago they were talking about the coming Ice Age.
Predictions were made at the same time that by the year 2000 we'd start running out of certain foods, like meat and may have to start eating worms and insects.
I watched the Time Machine yesterday, original, made in 1960 when the Cold War was going strong, and the writers predicted a nuclear war to end all wars in 1966.
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Post by fascinating on Feb 14, 2012 22:59:41 GMT 1
I think it is mostly the newspapers that hype up things to an incredible degree, and people seem to lap it up. The most disastrous, but ultimately unlikely, scenarios were presented as though they were very likely to happen. It was the same with AIDS, wild predictions were made of millions of Britons dying within a generation. Quite possibly there were scientists who expressed caution and had quite different forecasts, but I think that some health professionals rather joined the hype and played up the dangers, implying that everyone in the UK would be equally affected, which is not true.
There has been a long history of doom-mongers being proved wrong, such as Malthus and Paul Erlich. AGW, as presented by the green campaigners, looks like another prediction that will turn out to be something of a damp squib. It has a lot more science than Malthus and Erlich had available, but it does seem to me that the IPCC predictions are overly simplistic.
Expect the world's climate to change in the coming decades, probably a little on the warmer side, but Britain will continue to have miserable summers and dreary (occasionally bitter) winters, the world will adapt with increasing ability to climate change.
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