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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 23, 2011 15:10:21 GMT 1
In Sunday's Wonders of the Universe, with Brian Cox, it was mentioned that spacetime is analogous to the peaks and troughs of mountains where the fabric of space is bent and curved by matter. The moon is following the curvature of space distorted by the earth; the earth is following the path of spacetime distorted by the curvature of the sun; the sun is likewise following the path of spacetime distorted by the galaxy and so forth up to galactic clusters.
Now, this must logically imply that space itself is some kind of fabric in order for it to be bent and curved by matter. Question is: what really is space?
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Post by Progenitor A on Mar 23, 2011 16:52:39 GMT 1
Indeed it would, wouldn't it?
Odd how something that is supposedly nothing can be bent (oooooh......I'll be accused of homospacephobia now!....)
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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 23, 2011 16:56:49 GMT 1
Indeed it would, wouldn't it? Odd how something that is supposedly nothing can be bent (oooooh......I'll be accused of homospacephobia now!....) And yet on many occasions in the past STA has insisted space is literally 'nothing.' How can that be, nay? (Good joke, BTW) ;D |
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Post by speakertoanimals on Mar 23, 2011 17:20:47 GMT 1
Same ole nonsense, that we've been over time and time again!
All based on the false analogy that if something can be non-flat, it must be an object, because the only examples we have of stuff being bent are bending objects within space, not bending space itself.
Space is something else, that the answer to all this nonsense, so let's not waste everyones time by repeating it all over again, NM and abacus will say I'm an innumerate idiot, and will say that any statements I make about space are pants, so why repeat it, we can all predict what will be said.
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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 23, 2011 17:42:08 GMT 1
Same ole nonsense, that we've been over time and time again! All based on the false analogy that if something can be non-flat, it must be an object, because the only examples we have of stuff being bent are bending objects within space, not bending space itself. Space is something else, that the answer to all this nonsense, so let's not waste everyones time by repeating it all over again, NM and abacus will say I'm an innumerate idiot, and will say that any statements I make about space are pants, so why repeat it, we can all predict what will be said. I didn't say space was an object. All I said was it must be something other than 'nothing.' |
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Post by speakertoanimals on Mar 23, 2011 18:29:07 GMT 1
No one said it was 'nothing' (apart from meaing not matter, not an object).
We've been through all this before, and you just aren't capable of getting what space IS, not starting from where you're starting and using the sort of 'reasoning' you've employed in the past. SO why try to start the same tired ole discussion again.........................
You don't have to join NM with his nonsense you know:
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Post by Progenitor A on Mar 23, 2011 19:37:38 GMT 1
Indeed it would, wouldn't it? Odd how something that is supposedly nothing can be bent (oooooh......I'll be accused of homospacephobia now!....) And yet on many occasions in the past STA has insisted space is literally 'nothing.' How can that be, nay? (Good joke, BTW) ;D ;D But we all know STA ia a joke! Her latest input in the 'Idiot Science' thread confirms that Incredibly stupid! |
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Post by speakertoanimals on Mar 23, 2011 19:57:01 GMT 1
And same ole same ole from the usual suspects..................
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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 23, 2011 20:27:58 GMT 1
And same ole same ole from the usual suspects.................. Why do you keep using American phrases STA, it's annoying. Oh blimey, you're not actually a Yank are you? Perhaps you ought to refrain from watching too many rubbish US TV sitcoms, it might improve your grasp of our magnificent language, not the US version of it! |
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Post by speakertoanimals on Mar 23, 2011 20:44:38 GMT 1
Why do you spend so much time criticising anything and everything I say? Water off a ducks back to me, most of the time, but a bit sad from your point of view, frankly, and doesn't impress anyone.
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Post by skeptic on Jan 11, 2012 16:46:35 GMT 1
I have tried to get people to tell me what space is on various forums since it supposedly can be bent, warped, stretched, etc but as yet have yet to receive a worthwhile reply. The idea that space can go from quantum size to present size to whatever, endlessly expanding without changing in any way or being added to is nonsense. Space only works if it is literally nothing, defined only by what occupies it.
Gravity travels through a vacuum as light travels through a vacuum. It has no need to work by some crazy form of conduction where it bends space to get from A to B. We do not know what gravity is either so we cannot be sure how it works.
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