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Post by marchesarosa on Sept 10, 2010 22:52:28 GMT 1
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Post by marchesarosa on Sept 10, 2010 22:53:43 GMT 1
Can you get French Cheese in the Philippines, alan?
I bet you don't worry about carbon footprints. Wise man.
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Post by alanseago on Sept 11, 2010 20:40:10 GMT 1
Just Murkan processed I fear. There are plenty of other things but it is not renowned for its cuisine. I doubt if globule warming will affect me. I remember when scaremongers told us that smog was a product of coal smoke and dense fog. Utter rubbish!
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Post by marchesarosa on Sept 11, 2010 23:40:19 GMT 1
Well, smog was (is) real enough but does cheese have a "carbon footprint"?
Whatever! It's well within the scope of the Newspeak Climate Dictionary, I guess, isn't it?
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Post by alanseago on Sept 12, 2010 10:40:30 GMT 1
We mainly eat goat's cheese bought in the market each Friday, made and sold by an old lady who lives in the mountains. I shall have to question her about the carbon hoofprints.
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Post by StuartG on Sept 12, 2010 10:57:26 GMT 1
"I shall have to question her about the carbon hoofprints. " www.heifer.org/site/c.edJRKQNiFiG/b.4172985/'In “Livestock’s Long Shadow,” released in 2006, the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) of the United Nations reported that raising and processing cattle, hogs, poultry and other animals produces 18 percent of greenhouse gases; just 13 percent comes from trucks, cars and other transportation. And greenhouse gases—those produced directly by animals, and indirectly through the need to transport grain and meat—are only part of the problem. ' Our own roving reporter questioned one 'local', here's his report.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPkbpvEAU-o---------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Sliced lamb with goats' cheese and spinach potatoes' uktv.co.uk/food/recipe/aid/516373Yum...
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Post by marchesarosa on Sept 12, 2010 11:28:50 GMT 1
It's enough to turn you vegetarian, stu!
Why is fossil fuel targeted, which helps to produce so many useful things, when a change in diet and farming could probably achieve the same thing? More grain, fruit and veg and less meat is a healthier diet, anyway! I eat very, very little meat and virtually no dairy produce at all. So much agricultural land is devoted simply to growing feed for and providing grazing for animals.
Seems that some folk are keen to deprive us of the benefits of fossil fuels but ignore the benefits of reducing global meat and dairy consumption in favour of grain, fruit and veg!
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Post by rsmith7 on Sept 12, 2010 11:48:29 GMT 1
And fish!!
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Post by StuartG on Sept 12, 2010 11:58:02 GMT 1
M&M I believe that there is a difference of emphasis needed here. It's well known [at least to me!] that ladies do not need very much [if any in some cases] meat. Blokes late teens and manually employed men do need an intake of meat [and FISH!] if the are to undertake energetic work. I've never met a vegetarian farm hand. Stuart
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Post by Progenitor A on Sept 12, 2010 12:00:56 GMT 1
And fish!! I had some smoked fish with cauliflower cheese on Thursday. The fish was cod, smoked, about the size of a medium -sized steak (not very big). That piece of fish cost £7. No wonder bloody fishermen are chauffeur-driven in Bentleys! £7 is about 6% of my Winter Warming Allowance, which means I can only have smoked cod for 17 days each year! How is an OAP supposed to live nowadays?
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Post by rsmith7 on Sept 12, 2010 12:10:27 GMT 1
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Post by StuartG on Sept 12, 2010 12:15:33 GMT 1
Without naming names, and avoiding legal beagles... A certain large soft drink manufacturer has world wide sales figures of some 1.5 Billion units per day. As soft drinks contain our old faithful, carbon dioxide - the Pssst as they are opened. On average each Pssst will contain an average amount of gas. The drinks manufacturer has something in the region of 20-25% of the World market. I propose that this Pssst is a significant contributor to 'Global Warming'. A suggested algorithm.... 1,500,000.000 X 365 [days] X 5 [20% is a fifth] this will give the amount of Pssst's annually released into the atmosphere [excluding leaps] or in other words, who's taking the Pssst?
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Post by marchesarosa on Sept 12, 2010 12:17:35 GMT 1
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Post by marchesarosa on Sept 12, 2010 12:24:21 GMT 1
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Post by StuartG on Sept 12, 2010 12:48:59 GMT 1
Wilson's message is small beer when compared to the world wide output of Coarse Grains 2008/09 1,109.6 Million Metric Tons in Table 01 World Crop Production Summary of World Agricultural Production. [.pdf scans ok Avast! & IO Bit 360] www.fas.usda.gov/wap/circular/2010/10-08/productionfull08-10.pdf ...and that is just Coarse grains and ignoring all the other categories of grains/seeds/leaves/oils et al. This document is worth a look, just to draw into perspective the amounts of world production there is. At the beginning of the doc. good indications of weather are also given by the estimates of crops. Didn't we have a 'Wilson' at one stage, 'grass roots' and 'the pound in your pocket' perhaps this is a descendent of that Right Honourable gentleman.
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