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Post by mrsonde on May 14, 2018 1:38:48 GMT 1
Has he gone, the f*'ker? He really is like some Gothic cheap novella apparition - the "Curse of the Minister Who Tried to Do Something." Briefly visited late at night after a few scotches - "I...know...more...than...you do...mere mortal!" before disappearing again, in a whiff of smoke.
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Post by mrsonde on May 14, 2018 2:53:50 GMT 1
Anyway, he's gone - must have tired him out, that intervention. I see this week that the Fed has released an analysis of where Obamas's $12.6 trillion handouts have gone, or more pertinently to recent discussion what it has done to the wealth distribution of his nation. Over the Obama years the top quintile has become 20% richer. The bottom quintile - the working class, as understood in this country, and the underclass - now enjoys more than 10% of national wealth less than they did when Obama took power. The squeezed Middle class are more or less struggling along on what they did, except with hugely more unavoidable expenses, thanks to inflation - housing prices and above all rents - and Obamacare.
For those who still wish to cling to the fable that Obama was ever somehow for the ordinary people, for things getting better, rather than for the rich and privileged, and things getting more unequal, they could argue that now thanks to his manic money-printing policies there are now more rich than ever before, and that the wealthier are now better off than ever before. This is true. Does it matter that there are more poor, homeless, or dependent on food stamps, than ever before? If the rich are richer? I'm not a socialist, or a "progressive", you tell me.
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Post by Progenitor A on May 14, 2018 7:26:24 GMT 1
. Yes it matters. Inequality is necessary to a prosperous, free, democratic society, but when tha inequality is msking the poor poorer whilst the rich get richer, then inequality becomes a danger to these
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Post by mrsonde on May 14, 2018 9:16:16 GMT 1
. Yes it matters. Inequality is necessary to a prosperous, free, democratic society, but when tha inequality is msking the poor poorer whilst the rich get richer, then inequality becomes a danger to these Yep, but luckily Obama has shown the way - all the poor have to do it become President, be Wall Street's docile poodle, and thereby, albeit somewhat mysteriously, retire after eight years work in public service as a multi-millionaire.
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Post by aquacultured on May 15, 2018 0:04:59 GMT 1
Has he gone, the f*'ker? He really is like some Gothic cheap novella apparition - the "Curse of the Minister Who Tried to Do Something." Briefly visited late at night after a few scotches - "I...know...more...than... you do...mere mortal!" before disappearing again, in a whiff of smoke. True, I’m quite partial to a bit of Gothic. May not get round, tho, to reading the massive illustrated tome of Melmoth The Wanderer, which stares at me nightly from a bookcase and which I bought over 40 years ago. I was impressed by the cover: a cross, several dancing devils, and a lot of apparently grinning skulls. What’s not to look forward to, when you're getting older? Notice that I didn’t say I knew more than you do about the science of diabetes. Don’t be so sensitive. I have no idea what you know. I spoke of myself knowing about the actuality. A clue for you, Moriarty. The claims I’m familiar with involve severe dieting. You appear to be saying that doing that can cure Types 1 and 2 diabetes, and heart disease, within weeks. You must be a billionaire. As we know about dieting in general, it doesn’t work for a lot of people, and the severe type kills some. Michael Mosley is highly driven, to the extent of getting a living from it. I haven’t gone thru his whole oeuvre on You Tube, so maybe you can select highlights, if they indeed reflect what you're talking about, and you think it might be more helpful to people than just saying you know better than they do.
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Post by mrsonde on May 15, 2018 22:50:26 GMT 1
Has he gone, the f*'ker? He really is like some Gothic cheap novella apparition - the "Curse of the Minister Who Tried to Do Something." Briefly visited late at night after a few scotches - "I...know...more...than... you do...mere mortal!" before disappearing again, in a whiff of smoke. True, I’m quite partial to a bit of Gothic. May not get round, tho, to reading the massive illustrated tome of Melmoth The Wanderer, which stares at me nightly from a bookcase and which I bought over 40 years ago. I was impressed by the cover: a cross, several dancing devils, and a lot of apparently grinning skulls. Yeah, I've got the same reluctant hesitation with that one. Hillary's autobiog: Wtf Went Wrong?!In your case, the everlasting burning pits of hell, I suppose. You got away with it after all. Just the comfort of blank nothingness, eh? Look what Jesus did! Look what Jesus did! Look what Jesus did! (that's a Ted reference, for the young uns, or slackers, amongst us. Ted, not TED.) Well, that's nice of you, thanks. Actually, I have only a general passing interest in that one. A more serious interest in dementia, however - there's a very significant overlap. Me neither. The actuality is Abbott's Type II is very likely caused by the same factors that have caused her obesity. Severe dieting? No. Quite the opposite, really. I made no claim about Type I - that's very largely due to a genetic miswiring, as far as is known so far at least. Errr...the point I did make is that the cause of Type II - the vast majority of cases, anyway (I don't rule out the tiny possibility that Abbott's might be down to toxic poisoning, radiation exposure, etc., or that she might be so fat due to iodine deficiency, thyroid failure, or its's me slow matabolism innit) - has been known and reported on for years, and the very rapid very easy cure. The reason this is not common knowledge is due to the awesome power of Big Pharma and Big Ag - we're talking trillionaires, not mere billions - which have used that power to corrupt both the "Science" establishment and Western governments. Your homely little GP is helpless in the face of such power, and the really sad thing is that she doesn't even realise it - and there's bugger all she can do about it, unless she wants to be struck off, or at the very least lose a few thousand off her income. Fair enough. I'll see if I can find an hour or so to rustle up some papers for you. In the meantime, if you want to orientate yourself to this debate, are you familiar with the still ongoing case of Tim Noakes in S.Africa? Go to the actual case report - it's on youtube - rather than the propagandistic coverage. An easy intro: have you watched The Magic Pill? All nine cases of Type II included (accidentally) in their sample study completely cured within six months, and they weren't even trying to. You can get this very important film on Netflix.
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Post by aquacultured on May 15, 2018 23:48:32 GMT 1
You said : I made no claim about Type I.
But you did.
You said: No - Type I isn't much of a problem. It's certainly not the problem that has swept the developed world and almost become its number one killer, slightly behind heart disease, which has exactly the same cause (and, here's a clue for you Sherlock, is cured in exactly the same way, with the same speed.)
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Post by mrsonde on May 15, 2018 23:56:56 GMT 1
You said : I made no claim about Type I.But you did. You said: No - Type I isn't much of a problem. It's certainly not the problem that has swept the developed world and almost become its number one killer, slightly behind heart disease, which has exactly the same cause (and, here's a clue for you Sherlock, is cured in exactly the same way, with the same speed.)Ffs. I'm used to this sort of fuckery from the twisted wimmin on this board, you have more balls and integrity man! The "it" that is not "the problem" and "has the same cause" is not referring to Type I! Heart disease has the same cause, obv!
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Post by aquacultured on May 16, 2018 0:09:01 GMT 1
Oops, again, then; my fuckery includes a bit of syntaxery.
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Post by mrsonde on May 16, 2018 0:19:43 GMT 1
Oops, again, then; my fuckery includes a bit of syntaxery. Errr...wit a minute. I suspect I may be a bit drunk again. Yet again I don't understand...Is it dementia, perhaps, or am I merely trying to hold a conversation on social media? Are the two in fact...
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Post by aquacultured on May 16, 2018 0:33:19 GMT 1
Believe me, I've never been on social media, unless you count this sort of board.
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Post by mrsonde on May 16, 2018 0:39:49 GMT 1
Believe me, I've never been on social media, unless you count this sort of board. Oooh - don't they count this sort of board? Is that cos jean is here? I must be missing out, again. Maybe I should get a mobile pone? I keep getting calls...
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Post by mrsonde on May 16, 2018 0:52:27 GMT 1
Jeez, he's slow! Come on, dimmy. Keyboard, letters, press, inorder. Where's LMH when you need her?
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Post by fascinating on May 16, 2018 8:42:20 GMT 1
"The reason this is not common knowledge is due to the awesome power of Big Pharma and Big Ag - we're talking trillionaires, not mere billions - which have used that power to corrupt both the "Science" establishment and Western governments." Didn't expect left-wing conspiracy theories from you, mrsonde. Can you name any of these trillionaires? I think it is right that type II diabetes can be cured by diet, but I don't think it is "easy" and it takes months, not exactly quick.
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Post by mrsonde on May 16, 2018 9:10:59 GMT 1
"The reason this is not common knowledge is due to the awesome power of Big Pharma and Big Ag - we're talking trillionaires, not mere billions - which have used that power to corrupt both the "Science" establishment and Western governments." Didn't expect left-wing conspiracy theories from you, mrsonde. Nothing "left-wing" about it. Dupont. Monsanto. Pfizer. Eli Lilly. The AMA for that matter, who if you didn't realise it is a private company in itself. It is easy, and the glycemic index starts to stabilise within a few weeks - well, immediately one must suppose, but it's measurably returning back to normal function by the end of the first month. You cut out carbs, and sugars, and dairy, and processed foods, and you eat as much protein as you can, and natural fats - meat, animal fats, olive oil (if you're a veggie and can't face that), eggs, nuts, seeds. A little bit of varied veg and fruit. It used to be called the Banting diet. That's it. Eat as much as you like, all day long, and you'll rapidly lose weight (fat, at any rate), blood sugar levels return to normal and healthy internal regulation, "bad" cholesterol levels fall and "good" rise, arteries clear themselves, neuronal activity and health improves, and their death and the formation of platelets falls. This is known - it's proven fact, and has been for a long time. That is, the official dietary advice that's been pushed down everyone's throats for nearly 50 years - high carbs, low fat - is the direct opposite of what a healthy diet should be. Hence the worldwide epidemics of heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, ADHD, asthma, and a wide range of cancers (also known to be implicated in this officially recommended diet.) Now why do you think that might be? Cui bono?
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