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Post by marchesarosa on Oct 7, 2010 3:16:50 GMT 1
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Post by marchesarosa on Oct 7, 2010 11:28:32 GMT 1
Paul in Sweden | October 6, 2010 at 11:13 am | Replies to Judith Curry's question above. It chimes with what I think, myself.
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Risks and predictions… With all that has been said and done in the “Climate Science” community I have had my fill of “beliefs” and predictions that “may”, or “may likely” occur years beyond the career or life span of the “climate science” oracles.
Since the end of the little ice age the earth’s alleged “Global Average Temperature” has risen by tenths of a degree Celsius. This has been documented by surface stations measuring temperatures on airport runways and on inner city rooftops. Is this dangerous? Should I be concerned?
On a cold winter night a candle burning in my basement adds to the heat buildup in my home, if I breathe heavy and produce excess CO2 can I tell the wife and kid we do not have to turn the furnace on or put another log on the fire?
I can understand that cutting down the rain forest surrounding Mount Kilimanjaro affects the water shed, cuts evaporation, local cloud formation and thereby limits the snowfall on the snow cap, but does this also affect the climate & price of tea in China? Does all the increased irrigation and water evaporation of the corn fields in the mid-west affect the jet stream or the rain storms in the UK or is it about as significant as my candle in my basement on a winter night?
Phil Jones told Roger Harrabin in a BBC interview back in February of this year “I’m 100% confident that the climate has warmed. As to the second question, I would go along with IPCC Chapter 9 – there’s evidence that most of the warming since the 1950s is due to human activity”.
Since the 1950s most of the warming is due to human activity, heck it is almost 2011 now. That is 60 years. Should I be worried? Where are the crop reports stating that the growing season in higher latitudes & elevations have increased dramatically and this is somehow a problem? I know I must have an old copy of the Old Farmers Almanac from the 80s back home in America. When I compare the maps of the growing seasons with the Old Farmer’s Almanac of 2011 will I grow faint and have to warn the neighbors?
I asked Bart what the ideal temperature of the earth was? I do not think that it was a particularly stupid question. The earth has increased 0.6C-0.8C since the end of the little ice age. Am I to believe that climate scientists believe that the temperatures of the little ice age were ideal? Were the warmer temperatures of the MWP ideal? Should I really be concerned about the few tenths of a degree increase in the global average temperature since the end of the little ice age and should I really believe “climate science” because it tells me that with the current grasp of all natural climate forces it has been determined that all remainders are to be assumed anthropogenic CO2 emissions (just because no better excuse can be guessed)?
Climate scientists, stop telling me about risks 100 years into the future. The IPCC claims there has been 60 years of mostly anthropogenic dangerous global warming. Where is it? Show me that the last 60 years have been so much different from the previous 60 years and that it is due to anthropogenic causes which by coincidence began at the end of the little ice age and the beginning of the industrial age. How have the last 60 years been bad?
Nothing is going to happen at the IPCC conference in Mexico. Nothing is going to happen in the United States congress aside from intensive corruption investigation into “climate Science”. India, China and all of the third world will gladly take any and all monies the EU and the United states will hand them but they will in no way reduce use of coal, oil or natural gas. Some climate scientists kid themselves & believe that they have made a strong case in the face of world rejection of their science and policy recommendations and feel the world should prove their anthropogenic global warming theories wrong.
Should I believe that anthropogenic climate change constitutes danger or should I side with the majority of the governments and people on earth and continue to believe that the energy policies presented by “climate science” are by far the clear and present danger to civilization?
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Post by marchesarosa on Oct 7, 2010 11:38:45 GMT 1
Will someone please explain why the environmental movement has been hijacked from its role in promoting (and successfully achieving in the West) real pollution control to this fantasyland persecution of CO2 - one of the essential building blocks of life on earth?
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Post by rsmith7 on Oct 7, 2010 15:04:32 GMT 1
Perhaps they want to destroy western economies thus starting revolutions and civil war. After the dust has settled we will be living in a socialist utopia?
That wasn't a joke by the way.
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