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Post by rsmith7 on Nov 22, 2010 23:25:00 GMT 1
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Post by speakertoanimals on Nov 23, 2010 13:59:34 GMT 1
I don't know if this is the same guys as here: www.energy4freedom.com/magnetic-free-energy-generator-plans-now-available-to-the-publicmagnets 4 energy, which also sells run your car on water (by creating hydrogen using the battery for electrolysis, which is hardly 'free' and I wouldn't have thought home creation and storage of hydrogen was exactly SAFE, without proper technology) Despite the use of the term 'zero-point-energy', their device just appears to use the energy stored in a permanent magnet. Which is hardly beyond the cutting edge quantum engineering. So, to create a permanent magnet, you have to magnetize it, which takes energy. Then you get a magnetised chunk of stuff, which is just a rather novel form of energy storage. If you extract that energy, you demagnetize the magnet. So, what they seem to fail to mention is: 1) The magnets will eventually become demagnetized. 2) Assuming manufacturors aren't stupid, the cost of manufacture includes the cost of the energy they had to use to magnetize the magnets in the first place! Hence you are just paying for a very expensive form of energy storage, and paying considerably more than the energy they stored in it in the first place. www.nuscam.com/perendev.htmNevertheless, since most people don't understand magnets and energy anyway (for instance, where does the magnet on your fridge get all the energy required to keep holding itself to the fridge? Answers please!), no wonder that people keep falling for this scam! All you need is a design, a build-it-yourself booklet, and an overpriced bag of magnets, and it will probably do what it says on the tin, as long as you don't make any extravagant claims as to HOW LONG it will keep doing it before the magnets conk out! this page is fun as well, particularly the moon hoax stuff at the top! |
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Post by principled on Nov 23, 2010 20:21:07 GMT 1
STA After years of reading L-L's posts on the BBC board, haven't you realised that the magnets can be easily "re-magnetised"? All you need to do is to place a second generator on the end of the primary generator shaft and use the current produced to re-magnetise the magnets. Simples.  As for me, I'm putting my money on hydrogen by electrolysis. Taking that 600Watts from my alternator to convert the water into hydrogen to drive my 60kW engine has got to be the way to go. Especially as my battery powered vehicle with generators on each wheel to keep the batteries fully charged didn't quite work  RS: The video was interesting, but I wonder how much research the editors did before they actually decided that this was a newsworthy item? It wasn't screened on April 1st by any chance, was it? |
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Post by rsmith7 on Nov 24, 2010 12:12:25 GMT 1
I think it should have been.
Tell people what they want to hear.......
Was at a meeting at EMEC (European Marine Energy Centre) last night.
Very interesting - Pelamis11 only being tested in weather condition 2 (flat calm)
Oyster wave device wrecked
Falls of Warness tidal device operators will not release energy production figures.
Sizable grant from Scottish government to study effects on shellfish of wave energy convertors.
Would not answer when asked - what is the likelyhood of energy from wave/tide commercially available by 2018?
Scandalous
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Post by Mr Red on Jan 15, 2011 16:36:24 GMT 1
As with all technology advances, a lot of it comes down to marketing. Often cost.
VHS / Betamax the lesson was not lost on Sony, Software was the real key so they bought the Studio! Now DVD HD / BluRay and Sony are the winners, because they own the studio. But the backward compatibility was essential.
with home generators it will be PV in hot countries and has been for 20+ years in some countries like remote areas of Papa New Guinea. No infrastructure, create yer own. In colder climes there is a lot that could be done with hydro on a small scale and with legislation flood control is a possibility as a result. Warwick castle has had a water turbine on the Avon since the 20's.
But the real prize is convincing Joe public to be less profligate - now anyone with a useful suggestion to make that work?
Er - on someone else, not me!
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Post by rsmith7 on Jan 15, 2011 16:52:23 GMT 1
That's easy - repeal democracy in favour of authoritarian tyranny, fit "smart" meters in homes, a "smart" grid and ration electricity.
Isn't this the plan?
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Post by marchesarosa on Jan 16, 2011 18:00:20 GMT 1
And ration breathing out, too.
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Post by marchesarosa on Jan 17, 2011 8:03:04 GMT 1
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Post by marchesarosa on Jan 17, 2011 9:03:11 GMT 1
Just to be crystal clear, Lutec is a long running free energy investor scam. John Christie and Lou Brits started this scam in 1998 and are still scamming people twelve years later! The Evergreen company in Hong Kong is run by Lutec, and is a front for the scam to make it look independent. When Lutec first tried their scam in 2001, they used a front company in Singapore called BANK Inc which also claimed it was 100% independent from Lutec ("BANK Inc became aware of the inventors technology and through Australian agents contacted the inventors") An investigator contacted the website designer and found that Lutec founder John Christie was the one who hired the designer to create the BANK website, so they are clearly out and out liars. Here are two complete reports on their corporate history, bogus patents and attempts to get investors. www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/lutec1.pdfwww.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/lutec2.pdfAlso see www.ripoffreport.com/Search/Company/Lutec-Australia.aspxSo ergo - no free energy, just free money for scam artists. www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4956.30 |
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Post by Mr Red on Jan 19, 2011 11:43:09 GMT 1
,quote>That's easy - repeal democracy in favour of authoritarian tyranny, fit "smart" meters in homes, a "smart" grid and ration electricity.
Isn't this the plan? </quote>
Rationing? yea that's the puppy. Just watch the cost of essentials creep up and see how rationing works. Big oil is only about 10/15 years from peak and look at what the price of petrol is doing now, is this a foretaste? Or the thin end of the wedge? Time is on my side of the argument, I can wait for confirmation.
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Post by rsmith7 on Jan 19, 2011 12:41:42 GMT 1
Shouldn't that read "can't wait for confirmation"?
Unfortunately, if you were an inadequate failure under the best and most successful system the world has ever seen - capitalism - you will remain so under your preferred "system".
p.s. The oil price would be much lower if the eco-socialists weren't hell bent on stopping oil production in the deep water and Arctic.
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