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Post by principled on Feb 21, 2013 15:06:51 GMT 1
I have just received a note from a niece who lives in Colorado Springs. They've just had 7.4" of snow. The previous record was 5.6" in 1913. Roll on CO2 forced global warming! P
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 22, 2013 20:08:17 GMT 1
Roll on a bloody long time!
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 24, 2013 5:02:48 GMT 1
Over 650 snow records set in USA this week – another wonky surface station located Posted on February 23, 2013 by Anthony Watts wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/23/over-650-snow-records-set-in-usa-this-week-another-wonky-surface-station-located/While pundits spin attempts at linking snowfall in the Northeast USA to AGW, much like they do in the summer during heat waves, we find that Nature is just taunting them with snow as far south as the Mexican border in Arizona. And there is more to come, in the next week, we may see snow into Florida. During the last week, 652 new snow records were set in the CONUS as seen in the map below: Almost 60% of the contiguous USA covered in snow.
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 24, 2013 5:14:48 GMT 1
Aaaw!
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 24, 2013 10:43:00 GMT 1
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 25, 2013 14:41:28 GMT 1
The Winter Of 1947Posted on February 25, 2013 “Climate disruption” before the current lunacy of “CO2 caused extreme weather” era By Paul Homewood wattsupwiththat.comA London bus that had to be dug out of a snowdrift in 1947 The Great Freeze of 1963 was the coldest winter in the UK for over 200 years. However, the winter of 1947, while not as cold, was one of the snowiest. The UK Met Office describe what the conditions were like. Thousands of people were cut off for days by snowdrifts up to seven metres deep during the winter of 1947, which saw exceptional snowfall. Supplies had to be flown in by helicopter to many villages, and the armed forces were called in to help clear roads and railways. Between January and March that year, snow fell every day somewhere in the country for 55 days straight. Much of this settled because temperatures stayed very low, just above freezing most days.... more
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 25, 2013 14:44:55 GMT 1
I was born 31 March 1947 so was regaled with stories of the weather round about the time of my birth.
Fortunately it was a beautiful summer afterwards, by all accounts.
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Post by marchesarosa on Mar 23, 2013 11:21:24 GMT 1
Some nice pictures and videos from Eastern and Southern Poland taken a week ago. You may think that was in Siberia. No, that was happened 600 km from Berlin… A reall off-road nightmare! kontakt24.tvn24.pl/temat,zasypane-drogi-i-potezne-korki-kierowcy-w-starciu-z-zima,79950.html?categoryId=2 See also this thread from Pierre Gosselin notrickszone.com/2013/03/22/berlin-freezes-in-100-year-winter-record-snow-blankets-germany-bitter-cold-grips-europe/“Berlin Freezes In 100-Year Winter”…”Record Snow” Blankets Germany, Bitter Cold Grips EuropeBy P Gosselin on 22. März 2013 UPDATE: “This March could be the coldest of the last 100 years,” says meteorologist Dominik Jung Europe’s bitter cold winter refuses to let up! For some areas we are now hearing that it is being called the “100-year winter“!
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Post by marchesarosa on Mar 25, 2013 15:59:42 GMT 1
Climate experts have been telling us for years that global warming brings an early spring and declining snow cover. Now they say that a late spring and heavy spring snow cover is consistent with global warming. As far as I can tell, there is no possible weather event which they would say is inconsistent with global warming. That is the nature of ad hoc politically driven junk science. Steve Goddard. stevengoddard.wordpress.com/
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Post by alancalverd on Mar 25, 2013 17:23:06 GMT 1
Good weasel word "consistent with". Never say "caused by" because that can be challenged by experiment, but in an infinity of multiverses A is always consistent with B because the phenomenon and the hypothesis can coexist even if they are not logically related.
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Post by nickrr on Mar 26, 2013 14:44:16 GMT 1
No, it's exactly the right word. A particular weather event can't be definitely ascribed to climate change in general so it would be wrong to say it was or wasn't due to climate change - you can only say whether it is consistent or not.
No - the whole point is that you you couldn't challenge it by experiment and could not therefore say whether it was true or not.
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Post by alancalverd on Mar 26, 2013 15:19:04 GMT 1
Nature has done the critical experiment many times. The temperature graph always leads the CO2 graph, but climate scammers choose to ignore the fact and claim that CO2 causes temperature changes.
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Post by mrsonde on Mar 26, 2013 15:29:53 GMT 1
No, it's exactly the right word. A particular weather event can't be definitely ascribed to climate change in general so it would be wrong to say it was or wasn't due to climate change - you can only say whether it is consistent or not. Any weather whatever is consistent with the meaningless phrase "climate change". The point is that AGW advocates constantly ascribe particular weather events to increased CO2 emissions - Beddington has just done so, with this cold winter. There might not be any experimentum crucis possible to determine whether CO2 is causing global warming, but as a scientific theory it should generate definite falsification criteria in predictive consequences. Such as, for example, the Independent report Nay has just posted from a few years ago of a gaggle of climate scientists stating clearly that AGW definitely predicts warmer winters and less snowfall. If your theory does not generate definite predictions that can be falsified, it's not a scientific theory at all - it's pseudoscience. And before you say that you can't characterise the global climate by what happens in the UK, or that it's due to the jet stream being further south this year for some unknown reason - it's happening across the entire Northern hemisphere, and the diversion of the jet stream is a definite prediction of a theory that contradicts the AGW hypothesis.
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Post by principled on Mar 26, 2013 19:34:26 GMT 1
MS A very good response. Let's see how Nick counters it. P
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Post by marchesarosa on Mar 27, 2013 15:26:10 GMT 1
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