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Post by louise on Feb 13, 2011 19:57:39 GMT 1
Why "Oh dear"?
That was one of the protesters' demands
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Post by Progenitor A on Feb 13, 2011 21:03:01 GMT 1
Why "Oh dear"? That was one of the protesters' demands Was it? I thought I heard the chant in Arabic: 'Whata do we wanta?' 'Co-sti-tu-tio-ione sispenda fo a SEEXA MONT!' Right on Louise!
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Post by abacus9900 on Feb 13, 2011 23:37:04 GMT 1
Why "Oh dear"? That was one of the protesters' demands Don't be naive Louise.
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Post by abacus9900 on Feb 13, 2011 23:51:05 GMT 1
Why "Oh dear"? That was one of the protesters' demands Was it? I thought I heard the chant in Arabic: 'Whata do we wanta?' 'Co-sti-tu-tio-ione sispenda fo a SEEXA MONT!' Right on Louise! naymissus, do you really think that a country that has so far been ruled by corrupt people who have a lot to lose are going to hand over power to the 'people?' Mubarak was just a figurehead of an elite that enjoyed the benefits of a 'bent' electoral process and it seems unlikely to me they are going to allow the threat of fundamentalists to gain any foothold in ruling Egypt. I hope I am wrong naymissus but I fear the worst for Egyptian politics. We will see. Did Mugabe go?
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Post by rsmith7 on Feb 14, 2011 0:22:25 GMT 1
Will it be left or will it be right....or loony fundamentalism. By the loving BBC coverage, they're thinking left. God help them.
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 14, 2011 9:41:32 GMT 1
Suggest Helen read the "Discussion" underlying the wiki article on the libararies of Alexandria before making firm statements about events long lost in the spin of history. Just click on "Discussion" in top left hand corner of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria There you will find all the contradictory information and layers of dispute that underlies Helen's uncritical islamophilia re anti-intellectual Romans and Christians. There is really precious little actually known about the various Libraries of Alexandria. There is massive spin, however. What is certain is that the earliest one was established before either the Christian or the Muslim era. Such a shame subsequent Middle Eastern science and medicine hit a brick wall, isn't it and that the glory days are in the past? Celebrating the past is just about all that is left now. That, and tourism, of course. I sincerely hope Egypt's people will be relieved of the burden of dictatorship but I feel there will simply be a bloody struggle between rival "strong Men" to fill Mubarak's boots resulting in more repression by whatever faction gains ascendancy. As abacus says, the elite will still be there. Some of the protestors talk approving of "more democracy" but basically the social structure and culture of the Arab lands is anathema to democracy. I don't blame them for aspiring to it but it's not going to happen there.
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Post by Progenitor A on Feb 14, 2011 9:59:29 GMT 1
Do not slate Helen for Islamophilia MR. She has great experience of Islam having been for two weeks on a package tour to Sharm-El-Sheikh
I think that she might even be the fabled Florence of Belgravia
I sincerely hope that you are wrong about Egypt MR. I think that , with the exception of Algeria 15 years or so ago, this is the first time that Arab countries have demnded democracy And that must be encouraging
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Post by marchesarosa on Feb 14, 2011 10:40:44 GMT 1
Let's hope something good WILL come out of this popular protest movement, nay.
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Post by carnyx on Feb 14, 2011 10:46:05 GMT 1
Who knows? It may even result in the founding of pluralist democracies in the surroundings states, including Israel.
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