Black Adoption

[Progenitor A]

In another unaccustiomed governmental outbreak of commonsense, the Conservative Government (I deliberately leave out the liberal partners here as they must oppose any commonsense proposal) is to bring out a new guideline that race must not be a prime consideration when children are available for adoption

To my mind, only a bloody lunatic society would not allow white parents to adopt black/Asain children (or vice vers) especially when it is tio the disadvantage of black/Asian children, but then we have had a lunatic PC society for some time now, and the would-be do-gooders can be found on this many boards arguing for segregation in the name of unblushing anti-racism!

So about time this comonsense proposal was introduced

Interesting discussion between two black men discussing this move on R4 this morning.

One was adopted by white parents and was happy with the proposed ruling
The other man was against it because, he said, although he did not deny that black children could be brought up in a happy secure home by white parents, the problems came later when he would face questions about his heritage and cultural adjustment

The other black man said with some astonishment that his culture was 'English' and he had no problems of cultural adjystment

(An amusing interchange then took place about collecting firewood to cook the mid-day meal)

Of course there was no answer to that riposte except outraged expostulation

And there we have the in microcosm all the hypocisy, lies and foolishness that constitutes the harmful dogma of multiculturalism

[eamonnshute]

I agree that race should not be a prime consideration. The problem seems to be that black people are less willing to adopt than white people, for some reason. If they were equally willing then the situation would hardly arise.

[marchesarosa]

"The problem seems to be that black people are less willing to adopt than white people, for some reason. If they were equally willing then the situation would hardly arise

Perhaps you could elaborate on that statement, Eamonn. I don't quite follow your drift.

[eamonnshute]

The number of black people willing to adopt is small compared to the number of black children looking for adoption, which is why they are often adopted by white parents instead.

[Progenitor A]

Feb 22, 2011 13:49:46 GMT 1 eamonnshute said:

The number of black people willing to adopt is small compared to the number of black children looking for adoption, which is why they are often adopted by white parents instead.

This is unfotunately true, and is exacerbated by the reluctance of Local Authorities to allow inter-racial adoption, to my mind the ultimate in racial discrimination/segregation

[marchesarosa]

There seems to be an assumption that matching coloour like with like is desirable for some reason. I don't see it, myself.

So it seems white folk have a greater propensity to adopt and regardless of the race of the child? This should be celebrated and promoted.

This is the direction society needs to go to promote integration in the aftermath of the multicultural debacle. If black folk have cultural inhibitions about adoption in general and inter-racial adoption in particular that is for them to overcome. Those inhibitions, accepted by PC child care functionaries, have permitted too many black kids to languish in "care" for too long.

[speakertoanimals]

I wonder how many of these people who think it is commonsense to let white folks adopt black kids, would be as happy if nice white kids from christian backgrounds were adopted by muslims.............

I'm sure the Daily Mail would come up with a story about islamic fundamentalists using the adoption system as a method of grooming white kids to be terrorists, because after all, wouldn't that make the job of the security services much harder, if they looked just like us..........................

I think there is also a possible problem here. Someone who adopts a baby of the same race doesn't have to tell everyone they are adopted, the kid can decide for themselves. Whereas a black kid with a white mum and dad doesn't have the same choice. And whilst there is still a stigma attached to being adopted (your REAL mum and dad didn't want you after all!), perhaps this needs to be considered as well. Although I agree that ANY adoption is probably a lot better than a lifetime spent in care.

Perhaps we should be asking why black parents don't adopt so readily (if this is the case).

all the hypocisy, insights and foolishness that constitutes the harmful dogma of multiculturalism

Except we do have multiculturalism, makes life more interesting all round, and always has done in merrie england!

[jean]

Here's the discussion:

news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9404000/9404213.stm

Although the man who had been adopted was very happy indeed about it, other black people who were adopted by white families have spoken of their difficulties in feeling a part also of the culture of their birth parents.

And isn't it odd that nay should feel that when it comes to adoption there are no significant differences between black and white, and yet also (on another thread) should be so fearful of a Black future?

[marchesarosa]

"other black people who were adopted by white families have spoken of their difficulties in feeling a part also of the culture of their birth parents"

Well they would, wouldn't they, when some concerned PC multiculturalist stuck of microphone under their nose?

I'm sure lots of adopted kids, same race of not, experience probs of various kinds (and so do natural offspring). But I bet they are still grateful they were not left to languish in some care home.

Get a sense of proportion you PC bleeding hearts. Better still get out and adopt an unwanted black kid and make their day!

[jean]

Feb 22, 2011 20:40:53 GMT 1 marchesarosa said:

Better still get out and adopt an unwanted black kid and make their day!

I don't think nay approves of gay people adopting, marchesa.

[Progenitor A]

Feb 22, 2011 19:26:06 GMT 1 marchesarosa said:

There seems to be an assumption that matching coloour like with like is desirable for some reason. I don't see it, myself.

So it seems white folk have a greater propensity to adopt and regardless of the race of the child? This should be celebrated and promoted.

This is the direction society needs to go to promote integration in the aftermath of the multicultural debacle. If black folk have cultural inhibitions about adoption in general and inter-racial adoption in particular that is for them to overcome. Those inhibitions, accepted by PC child care functionaries, have permitted too many black kids to languish in "care" for too long.

Quite

Advocating racial segregation is equal to, in every respect, the apratheid system of the old South Africa, and for 'anti-racists' to hold that position is a prime example of muddle-headedness, and is typical of the bewildered thinking of the left

[jean]

Nobody's Advocating racial segregation, nay.

But it is quite extraordinary that you are yourself so keen to espouse a definition of Britishness that does not include being black.

That sounds pretty muddle-headed to me.

[marchesarosa]

I was not aware muslim was a colour, STA, but why worry about muslim adopters? They wouldn't touch a kuffir kid with a barge pole because they are unclean. They have enough kids of their own to worry about, anyway, and can always adopt a relative if short.

Charity begins at home with Islam, and rarely gets beyond it. Although one of the five pillars of Islam, zakat, the duty of compulsory charity, can easily be circumvented by bestowing it on relatives, not on strangers, and certainly not kuffir strangers from the local care home.

So I think your counter-example would not actually arise, STA, they would not want a white kid in the first place, for "cultural" reasons.