Druggies On Invalidity Benefit

[Progenitor A]

Odd isn't it?
People that have have brought about their own self-destruction by indulging in illegal activities are paid more for being unable to work than a person who has worked continously for 30 years, lost their job through no fault of their own and is looking for work?

I suppose out resident 'socialists' will find good reason for using taxpayers money in this way but it certainly flies in th eface of common sense and decency in my opionion

Perhaps druggies are a protected species, like [snip], [snip], [snip] and [snip]?

[carnyx]

A parallel would be the treatment of 'dyslexia' (e.g. illiteracy) as a disability ... and the consequent allowances used to subsidise membership of feral gangs of unintegrated second-generation [snip] who are involved in stabbing and shooting each other, plus passers-by.

This kind of [snip] behaviour is expected but barely tolerated in Africa these days, so why have we imported, encouraged and positively wished this kind of cultural [snip] on ourselves?

I wonder if the children of the many thousands of children that were 'exported' to Australia and Canada in the postwar years, would be as badly behaved as the offspring of the [snip]on the Windrush coming the other way?

I suspect that the reason for this is because 'The British' have an overriding fear and loathing of 'The English' and seek to do them down at every turn.

As someone who has had the opportunity to observe 'British' and 'English' behaviour for many years now, I believe this need to create social apartheid stems from the Womenfolk, who have a real existential interest in social status yet cannot or dare not let it be examined. Our Feminists still keep this secret fear, which drives their essential relativist misanthropy that they will not or perhaps cannot not acknowledge ... because they lack the intellectual and emotional stomach for the truth perhaps.

And that 'British' menfolk have gone along with this effective civil war, is definite proof that the Womenfolk have had more than equal social power all along! And, is this the intellectual secret that is behind the real loss of drive and power of the Feminist Movement?

[Progenitor A]

An andoyne post Carnyx, unusual for you who normally loves controversy!

[principled]

Nay

I suppose out resident 'socialists' will find good reason for using taxpayers money in this way but it certainly flies in the face of common sense and decency in my opinion

I suspect that there are a couple of issues at play here.
Firstly, there is the social equivalent of the military "mission creep", where little by little changes occur and before one knows it one is covering items that were never envisaged at the outset.
Add to this the rather British (English?) trait of not wanting to rock the boat, to always want to appear fair to all and sundry, an innate fear of being seen to offend and you have the ingredients for a system that will continue to creep and become more and more absurd.

The original social state ( which I supported) was designed at a time when people were far more honest and had much lower expectations of what safety net the state should provide. Now, society is different. People are more selfish and many lack any moral fibre. They see the system is open to abuse and have no compunction about abusing it.

The sad thing is that this abuse of the system is one of the reasons why the government can't afford (!) a state pension that is so low that within the EU it is 25th our of 28 countries! There's a price to be paid for "mission creep" and workers and pensioners are paying it.

Unfortunately, analysing the problem and then being able/willing to do something about it are worlds apart!
P

[Progenitor A]

Apr 2, 2011 10:27:08 GMT 1 principled said:

Nay

I suppose out resident 'socialists' will find good reason for using taxpayers money in this way but it certainly flies in the face of common sense and decency in my opinion

I suspect that there are a couple of issues at play here.
Firstly, there is the social equivalent of the military "mission creep", where little by little changes occur and before one knows it one is covering items that were never envisaged at the outset.
Add to this the rather British (English?) trait of not wanting to rock the boat, to always want to appear fair to all and sundry, an innate fear of being seen to offend and you have the ingredients for a system that will continue to creep and become more and more absurd.

The original social state ( which I supported) was designed at a time when people were far more honest and had much lower expectations of what safety net the state should provide. Now, society is different. People are more selfish and many lack any moral fibre. They see the system is open to abuse and have no compunction about abusing it.

The sad thing is that this abuse of the system is one of the reasons why the government can't afford (!) a state pension that is so low that within the EU it is 25th our of 28 countries! There's a price to be paid for "mission creep" and workers and pensioners are paying it.

Unfortunately, analysing the problem and then being able/willing to do something about it are worlds apart!
P

Well argued P

You encapsulated and expressed my thoughts on the subject with far more eloquence than I could have mustered (of mayonnaissed)