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Post by louise on Apr 23, 2011 20:01:56 GMT 1
After a numer of air traffic controllers were found to have been sleeping on duty, the US has decided that the personnel must have an extra hour off between shifts (now at least 9 hours rather than 8 between shifts). www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13106469 |
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Post by principled on Apr 24, 2011 4:03:52 GMT 1
I think most of those US controllers wished they were working in Spain where, after a strike and negotiations they have a agreed a salary reduction to around £200k per year. Before that some earnt as much as £700k. BTW, perhaps the US experience is a legacy of Reagan when he sacked most of the controllers because they went on strike. Some months later there were still many less controllers operational than had been the case pre-strike. One wonders if that still exists today! eightiesclub.tripod.com/id296.htm |
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Post by helen on Apr 24, 2011 14:41:53 GMT 1
9 hour shifts......oh pity me? And then you have 13 hours off for God's sake. Get a grip you people. In my home town in one of the wealthiest cities in Europe I work ten hours a day for what turns about to be the modal wage here around @ £20K.
Sleeping on the job? Sack the buggers and employ folk with real ideals about what they are being employed to do. If the responsibility of your job risked thousands of lives then you would be payed a reasonable wage: You are. I'm paid a reasonable salary as teacher, to risk loads of folks futures for my salary? $700K? is what you want: it's a dream. The only thing I can think is quit and open the jobs to folk who care!!!!!!
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Post by louise on Apr 24, 2011 14:46:53 GMT 1
9 hour shifts......oh pity me? Helen - I think you have misunderstood. They now must have 9 hours BETWEEN shifts, not 9 hour shifts. I don't know how long the actual shifts are but I believe that it is a role that requires a lot of concentration and that frequent rest breaks are essential. |
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Post by helen on Apr 24, 2011 15:23:39 GMT 1
I don't want to fall out with you louise as I feel we are on the same wavelength on many things but do these folk really work +12 hour shifts? Why? Are they so skint that $70 to $100K isn't sufficient to live on these days? Can you link me to somewhere that might explain all this? Why is it allowed - in that thousands of lives are at risk and at such rates of pay these folk are hacked off at sitting at a desk all day? Uk air traffic controllers - what do they get paid?
If they don't like it at their rates of pay and conditions of work, sack the buggers and come and get me to do the job; do they have no union to protect their rights? I've got a 30 year old A level in geography here and I like computers and maths. Sorry to sound so cynical. But why do these folk work such ridiculous shifts? Clearly they care about what they do and they need the cash but isn't the administration at fault? I love teaching kids but for a trip to American and tripled salary - I'd do it.
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Post by louise on Apr 24, 2011 15:30:09 GMT 1
I don't want to fall out with you louise I don't think there is any reason to do so. I don't expect that these people are regularly doing 12 hour shifts. I think it more likely that after doing a week of night shifts the new rule is that they must have a least 9 hours off before starting a week of day shifts - that's how I read it anyway and it seemed a reasonable approach to me. I assume that it is designed to ensure that they have adequate sleep between shift changes. So in response to your "isn't the administration at fault?" - I think the administartion is trying to correct a fault. That's all. |
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Post by helen on Apr 24, 2011 15:59:57 GMT 1
There was no change of shift notes as such louise it was always six am till 2; 2 till ten and then 10 till 6 on a three week rotating cycle. Producing really crappy cds and dvds that you see in motorway service station shops. You may say I chose to work there - I did, I needed a job: they payed me a lot of money - I was good at what I did.
Anyhew, I'm back to the snooker now tv. My Ex-Wife told me that holding a bay leaf and watching snooker really cleared the mind, she was so right, so, again, I'm planning on doing that now.
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Post by helen on Apr 25, 2011 15:04:22 GMT 1
Mean't my ex husband above there, soz, was having an odd moment (you can't edit these posts). That's what he used to do: Hold bay leaves and watch snooker. He's in hospital; I use bay leaves for cooking and I don't look at snooker: We are separated now.
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Post by Joanne Byers on Apr 26, 2011 2:00:34 GMT 1
I'm not in the least surprised. This board is divorcing you too. Bye bye.
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